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Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

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Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby abovethoughts » Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:35 am

This is still not working for me ... Say I have an 8 bar drum track and I want bars 1-4 to hold one generated URE pattern and bars 5-8 hold another generated URE pattern, I can't get this to work. [ I am using the free VSTsynFont with the free Chaos sound font, in Metro I have it mapped correctly as GM MIDI as I can hear the correct drum sounds when URE creates patterns]

ok, here is the workflow ... on one track that is 8 bars long ...
1. Select 8 bars and insert a chord progression "1345" over bars 1-4 and again over bars 5-8 ( not sure if that is needed but you mentioned this earlier might help )
2. I select the blank first 4 bars and get URE to fill in these 4 bars. Up to this point everything is working as expected.
3. Now on the same track, I want to continue using URE but I do need a new URE pattern ... so this is where I select bars 5-8 and URE generates the next 4 bar pattern, but my original 4 bars get removed, not expected ...and I am left with only bars 5-8 filled with a URE pattern, bars 1-4 are blank

User error likely, but really would like to string together multiple URE patterns on the same track. Please advise the change that is needed to get this to work?
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby Jerm » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:58 pm

Here is one correct way to do that. Please let us know what you were doing differently.

http://sagantech.com/examples/8BarsURE.swf

Note: For drums you do not need to insert a chord progression. Just be sure to be in a 'drum view' and there is no data in the selection and none of the drum names are selected on the left.
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby abovethoughts » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:17 pm

Hi -

I believe I have followed the correct steps in your vid and it's just not working. Please view the MHTML file attached (made using the steps recorder in win 8.1) --- you might need to open it with Internet Explorer, if possible other browsers will open the file but you might need extensions for MHTML

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpitu7ylezeui ... 1_1113.mht
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby Jerm » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:34 pm

Okay that is helpful and it does look like a bug. The only problem is, as you have seen from my video, it is not happening for me. What version of Metro are you running and what bit depth(32 or 64)?

I don't have 8.1 but I will try this in win 8....
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby abovethoughts » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:46 pm

Running 32 bit Metro 7.2.2
( Win 8 install upgrades to 8.1 with an auto update )

Also, if a fix is made, if possible can the "save and increment" FR get inserted in the Metro update ?
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby Jerm » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:51 pm

Yes it is user error. You forgot to click apply. You need to click apply to have it apply to the current track.
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby abovethoughts » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:03 pm

Ahhh, problem SOLVED! I just tested and it works. Thank you
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby abovethoughts » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:47 pm

ok, got the drums track working, but I am still experiencing issues with the bass track as you can see from the FLV file I am attaching.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9xgst0v8bo1s ... lanned.flv
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby abovethoughts » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:57 pm

Solved, seems the bass track can't get generated by URE if there is no chord progression, that is why bass was unable to be generated in the video. I will leave the vid up for a day and then take it down but it does show that URE will not work without progression data.
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby Jerm » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:19 pm

Yes, you are right. Perhaps it should have inserted a random progression automatically when you tried to generate the bass track. There may be logic in there that says do not generate a random progression if there are already notes within the selection. In your case you had the drums in the selection. I will look at that.
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby Jerm » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:40 pm

Okay there were a couple of problems with the logic in this case. They have been addressed in 7.2.3. As of 7.2.3 a random chord progression will be generated at the point where you were trying to insert the bass with no notes in the selection.
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Re: Multiple URE patterns on same track ?

Postby Jerm » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:50 pm

This should be fixed in the newly released 7.2.3. Please let me know if you still have problems.
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