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Is there a pro Metro

Postby sd » Mon May 05, 2003 10:48 am

I know that merto is a home use. But I want to know is there is a pro metro in people who works in the fild?
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Re: Is there a pro Metro

Postby cornutt » Mon May 05, 2003 1:04 pm

sd wrote:I know that merto is a home use. But I want to know is there is a pro metro in people who works in the fild?


Allow me, Jeremy...

You're thinking about Metro SE, the "entry-level" version (that's still an unfair characterization, since the features in SE would have been top-of-the-line ten years ago). But if you buy the full-up Metro, you are indeed getting a professional-level product. From what I've seen, Metro is quite competitive with better-known products that are used by pros, like Logic and Digital Performer. (And Metro is a more "independent" product, with more assurance of long-term compatibility, since Sagan Tech isn't in the business of making or selling hardware.) Admittedly Metro isn't Pro Tools, but then again it doesn't cost $10K either.

I know that there are pros using Metro. I'm not a pro myself, but I keep up on what's going on in the industry and I know that it's happening. (My brother has been a pro musician; he played bass for the Royal Court of China [late-80s metal band], and he keeps me up on things.) From what I've seen, in terms of track capacity, data and audio manipulation, plug-in support, interface support, and so on, Metro 6 is right up there with the big guys. About the only thing you can't get with Metro is support for dedicated DSP hardware, but my position on that is that general-purpose CPUs have gotten to the point where it really isn't necessary anymore. A few years ago Pro Tools was the thing to have in pro studios, but I'm hearing now that some of those people are realizing that they can do what they need without having to pay for all that hardware and the support, and they are looking for less expensive solutions. Metro is going to be a player in that picture along with Logic etc. :D
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Postby Scoot » Mon May 05, 2003 3:40 pm

Funny comparing Metro to Pro Tools.

I was always a little nervious of a company that has a flagship product and locks you into a chicago font when everyone else has moved on. It does make your product look dated. :) Hpw long did it take them to decide people wanted midi in their products? OK they've finally caught up but still...........hehe.

If you were to buy a Digi 001 (I say 001 rather than 002 as the 002 price is pretty extreme) you would get software capable of 24 tracks with RTAS plug-ins. If you're buying a 001 you probably don't have a big budget for a high end computer. Have you ever ran a RTAS plug? Talk about CPU hogging!


For the same money you could get a MOTU 828 and metro with 64 tracks and VST plugs.


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Postby cornutt » Tue May 06, 2003 7:15 pm

Scooterman wrote:Funny comparing Metro to Pro Tools.



Isn't it, though. Pro Tools obviously has a reputation that precedes it. and until lately I think it's kind of been taken as a given in the pro world. (This is probably because when it first came out, for pro use it wasn't a choice between Pro Tools and another software package, it was a choice between Pro Tools and an MCI 24-track analog tape machine.) But I've seen two reports on the net lately from studios that have recently switched (to Logic, in this case), and it sounds like others won't be too far behind.

Have you ever ran a RTAS plug? Talk about CPU hogging!



I didn't know that, actually. Seems odd; I thought that was what all that DSP hardware was for. But it does prove a point; you've got to keep up with technology and the market, and it seems that Digidesign is having some problems in that area. No one is immune. (Just ask anyone that was working for IBM in 1985.)


For the same money you could get a MOTU 828 and metro with 64 tracks and VST plugs.



Yep, and the choice of plug-ins and compatible hardware and software is a lot better.
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Postby Scoot » Tue May 06, 2003 11:46 pm

RTAS (Real Time Audio Suite) plugs consume the CPU of the host machine. These are the budget (consumer?) plug family.

TDM are their big brothers which run off the DSP farms (PCI cards) so allowing the CPU of the computer to be freed up.

I never heard about Protools till about version 4.3 and that was only due to getting on an apple mailing list and invited to a pro tools session. :P
I think I was mistaken for some big popstar or big spender. hehe.

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