NOT FEEDING ALL CHANNELS INTO AUX BUS EFFECt

[arenson]

Have I got this right?

track 1 voice
track 2 guitar

MIXER
aux 1 reverb aux 1 effect send fader up

MIXER MAIN WINDOW
track 1 and track 2 faders up

IN AUX 1 mixer view
I understand if I have track 1 fader up I will be adding effect to only track one and if I have tracks 1 and 2 up i will be adding effect to both tracks BUT what effect am I adding? It would seem I am adding the combined 1 and 2 reverb effect.

(USING POST FADERS)

BUt what if I ONLY want to add reverb of 1 to 1. And not have reverb of 1 fed back to 2? then I understand I do not raise the 2 fader in aux window view. Yet again, what if I have tracks 1 and 2 up in main view, then don't i get stuck with teh comnied track 1 and 2 effect getting sent back to track 1


BETTER NOT TO USE AUX BUS IN THAT CASE?
Is it true that if I only want a given effect to be fed back only to that same track, i should use the effect directly and not the bus because the bus takes ALL channels with faders up in main view and adds them to the COMBINED EFFECT that the aux1 window faders return.

[Durumbrain]

The aux bus does not return audio to any track. Adding an effect to "track 1" using an aux bus does not affect "track 1" in any way. The aux bus uses the audio from the track and outputs it without sending it back.

[Jerm]

Thank you Durumbrain!

I had previously explained to Arenson that you can think of an aux buss as an additional track of audio whereby the sound for that track is derived from the mixing of portions of other tracks. After the mix, an effects chain is optionally applied. The output of the effects chain is then mixed together with other tracks that are destined for the same audio output port.

Internally this is how it is done.

[arenson]

Ok, thanks.


I guess I always get confused by too much info.

And maybe my question is just theoretical. I don 't know.

So to summarize, the original track itself is not affected.

The BUS (additional track as Jerm says) is made up of sound from whatever tracks I feed to it, and I add back to those tracks in the amounts I want.

As to the nature of the sound in the bus, it DOES sound from what Jerm says that if I add output to the bus a lot of tracks, then the bus track will also have a complex sound as opposed to if I just insert an effect on a single track.

So I guess I have to use judiciously.


Thank you both.

[Durumbrain]

The BUS (additional track as Jerm says) is made up of sound from whatever tracks I feed to it, and I add back to those tracks in the amounts I want.

Again, you don't add anything back to any tracks. The faders in the aux-view are for determining the "send" value for the tracks into the separate effects chain. In other words, a value of 127 on a fader means that you send the audio from that track to the effects chain at full volume, while 0 means that you do not send any of it.

It's a little tricky, but you'll get the hang of it.

[arenson]

Again, you don't add anything back to any tracks. The faders in the aux-view are for determining the "send" value for the tracks into the separate effects chain. In other words, a value of 127 on a fader means that you send the audio from that track to the effects chain at full volume, while 0 means that you do not send any of it.

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Thank you Durumbrain (I like this handle!) And I tested and it DOES WORK!!!!!! My mistake was to think that if I add it to the effect chain then every track is going to get the combined effect. In fact, it did not. So it works GREAT!!!!!

So in Aux-view I have fader 1 and fader 2 both at 127, so both sending audio from those tracks into effect chain. What I was wondering is at THIS point was that since audio 1 and audio 2 are BOTH in the effects chain, the effect is in essence would be made up of the audio of both. So I was worried that the effect would potentially be muddier. In other words, the more tracks added TO the effects chain by the send in Aux-view, the more complex the effect chain.

BUT I WAS WRONG. I tested this and was happy to find this:


In track one I am singing a single low OMMMMMMM
In track two I am singing a stacatto fast beep beep beep.

In aux view I add both to the effects bus. AU PITCH at 127 fader position.


Then in main view I lowered and raised the volume faders, expecting the altered pitch of both to effect track 1 and track 2. In fact, happily, they did not. Only track 1 pitch bend came back to track 1.

So whatever I was misunderstanding , using the BUS ---IS-- MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. Though I am adding different things into th effects chain, each track retains only its own info. THIS ---IS--- good news.


Thanks.


Paul