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Comment from a Vision / Studio Vision "orphan"

Postby goofaman » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:46 pm

Hi Jeremy,

Been trying out the Metro demo, and am quite impressed... I am one of a small legion of Studio Vision "orphans" that misses his old fave sequencer. I've tried them ALL and while I get along well enough with a combination of several (Logic, Live, Pro Tools) I still miss whatever intangible connection I had with Vision. (Probably something to do with being a charter user of Sequencer back in the '80s.)

At any rate, so far, I see some echoes of the architecture and philosophy of that old favorite program in Metro... Maybe it's just me... :) But were you ever a fan, and has that design been an influence at all?

Whether you have, or not, I'm pleased to see how easily I am finding my way around the demo without cracking the manual... :)

Excellent work!

-gm
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Postby Jerm » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:51 pm

Hello Goofaman,

I did have the original Sequencer program from opcode. That text only interface worked fairly well and I especially liked the non-linear sequencing implementation but the product was a bit unstable on my Mac Plus and crashed often so that was an impetus to find something better. I settled with Master Tracks pro, which was unbelievably stable but had no non-linear editing capabilities and looping was very limited. When I called up the manufacturer at the time, they said that they would never be adding the capability I desired to their product. This gave me the inspiration to develop Metro, which was at that time, Beyond.

Jeremy
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Postby goofaman » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:00 pm

I think my favorite composition tool in Vision was Subsequences--- and triggering them by the letter keys on the Mac keyboard. They could cut off the previously playing one, or overlap/layer... And you could record the result in real time (with optional quantizing of when you started the subsequence).

You wound up with an event list of subsequence calls... then you could "capture" the output into a new multitrack linear sequence with all the note data accessible again.

That's not to say you can't do this in Metro--- I just haven't dug deep enough yet (just started today).

I believe it was seeing the "loop" checkbox on each individual track in Metro that started this train of thought... :)

Thanks again--- and I think I'll become an official Metro user.

-gm
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subsequences

Postby fastlanephil » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:21 pm

I remember the subsequence feature in Vision. I believe Metro uses sections to accomplish the same thing but instead of sequencing using audio as a guide you create sections and then splice them together visually as subsections in the main section, adjusting until you get a good sync. It's probably not as quick as Vision's method but by enlarging the subsection ribbons you'll be able to sync up just as, if not more accurately with the mouse .

And Metro doesn't use a dongle. :D
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