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Any "good" AU or Sound Font GM Drums

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Any "good" AU or Sound Font GM Drums

Postby PhilGillis » Thu Jul 15, 2004 10:38 am

I have SampleTank 2 XL . .but haven't learned enough about it to map a kit and I dont think there is a GM drum map in the collection I have .would like to find a GM Drum set so I could just dive in focusing on Metro . .then come back to SampleTank. Don't know enough about implementing SoundFonts or if there is a decent sounding GM Drum collection in a sound font. Any help appreciated.

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Postby Scoot » Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:02 am

I don't know if its GM (if it isn't its close) but the nicest soundfont drums can be found here.

http://www.natural-studio.co.uk/sampled.htm

He also has a few other instruments as well.


Otherwise grab a few of the large collections at
http://www.hammersound.net/cgi-bin/soundlink.pl

in the collections and drumkits sections.


Drums in metro are not that hard to master.

In the graphic editor select the notes popup and change it to drums.
Select the kit you want to use and add the drums required or all of them.

You can create new drum sets and edit them from the setup menu - drums sets.
It's just a matter of playing the key/note and telling metro what drum you're hearing. Save off your drum sets into the metro allocated folder.
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Yeah, but...

Postby Adrian Delso » Tue May 10, 2005 9:39 am

I'm in Graphic, I click-held the Synths label and found the Drum thing. I then selected a kit and a few drums, but the point I'm missing is how you then get them to make any drum-like noises! :?: :shock:
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Re: Yeah, but...

Postby Scoot » Tue May 10, 2005 3:17 pm

Adrian Delso wrote:I'm in Graphic, I click-held the Synths label and found the Drum thing. I then selected a kit and a few drums, but the point I'm missing is how you then get them to make any drum-like noises! :?: :shock:


Hang on............which thing did you find?

In the graphic editor there are 3 areas to check out just above the track.
These are the 3 popups to the right of RMS [and the no. of bars]

Ignore the one on the far right for now, which is your synth/effect selector.

Go to the second one (which is the PORT/Output selector) and choose Internal 10 which will get you onto a midi track (if on an audio one) and be ready for quicktime drums.

Check to see if you're getting sound by dragging the cursor down the piano roll on the left.......you should hear drums.

Now switch to pencil and run down the piano roll and you place notes on the track at the current note length. You can also pencil all over the track or use the spray can tool.


Now goto the popup labelled NOTES and select DRUMS.
Now you can see your drum notes and also pencil on more in the same 2 ways above.

You can hold down the option key on the name of a drum and change it for another.
You can mute and solo individual drums.
You can add new drums with the last item in the list 'new drum' and you can change the complete kit with the top one.


Once you've figured that out you can then play with the other synths and VSTi's.

:)


No offence but I don't know why you need doggybox..........everything's already covered.
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Postby Adrian Delso » Mon May 16, 2005 5:51 am

Thanks, Scoot. Very helpful.

Need Doggiebox? Don't think I do, but there are some very nice sampled kits in it. How easy would it be to get those samples into Metro, or another sampler which Metro can use, e.g. VSamp, which I do like for its ease of use and sound quality?
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Postby Scoot » Mon May 16, 2005 6:51 am

You can go to

http://soundfont.free.fr/

and grab some very good drum soundfonts to stick into metro through the DLSMusicDevice plugin.

There is also

http://soundfont1.free.fr/
http://soundfont2.free.fr/
http://soundfont3.free.fr/
http://soundfont4.free.fr/

thanks to Francois.


You can stick the DLSMusicDevice in a track and then after it place in the matrixreverb which will give some great results (with or without the DLS reverb on).

If you don't like matrixreverb grab Room884
http://www.silverspike.com/?Download


example download ruckus and give it a try.
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Postby Adrian Delso » Tue May 17, 2005 9:53 am

I'm still doing something wrong :oops:
The only drum sounds I can get are the ones out of VSamp.
I've clicked on the Drum option in Setup and seen the Import etc. dropdown, but I can't Import any of my drum samples, nor open any of the kits listed.
(When I selected DLS, I just got piano sounds.)
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Postby Jerm » Tue May 17, 2005 10:02 am

Adrian Delso wrote:I(When I selected DLS, I just got piano sounds.)

You need to change the bank to a drum bank if you are using the default sounds or change to dls channel 10 (dls-10). MIDI Channel 10 defaults to a drum bank.
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Postby Scoot » Tue May 17, 2005 3:10 pm

Adrian Delso wrote:I've clicked on the Drum option in Setup and seen the Import etc. dropdown, but I can't Import any of my drum samples, nor open any of the kits listed.



Get familar with the drums that are there with Jerm's #10 solution.
Inside the DRUM area of the graphic editor you can choose different drum kits and replace one drum for another.


Once you're comfortable with that you then move onto building your own sets through the SETUP menu - drum sets option.
It may not be obvious but these are not drum sets with sound. They are drum names allocated to piano key positions.....so you're telling Metro which key is holding the bass drum or the snare etc.
What you do is pick the drum kit you want to use from your synth and then test the sound on the keys. If something doesn't match the name you remap it to suit......or choose from the list of kits, a kit that matches your one.

If your kits match general midi standards, you could just go straight to the graphic editor drum popup and choose GM.
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Postby Adrian Delso » Wed May 18, 2005 2:29 am

Thanks again, you two.
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Postby françois » Mon May 23, 2005 12:43 pm

You've got here more E-Mu Modules ( very nice )

http://soundfont.free.fr/
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Postby Scoot » Mon May 23, 2005 9:43 pm

The individual instruments inside the EMU/Orchestral Module Mania are very nice Francois. Thanks.
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Postby Jerm » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:00 pm

Anyone know what happened to the soundfonts? Now, unfortunately, they are MP3's. :(

I managed to get the E-MU pure-phatt back when this first posted. Does anyone have links to the other Soundfonts that were there?
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Postby françois » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:49 pm

hello jerm,
i removed them from my site. when I get enouph time I will try to find again.
could you tell me what you need exactly ?
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Postby Jerm » Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:07 am

Thanks but I think I found them at sf2midi.com
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