Using rewire in 6.2

[Paul]

Can anyone explain to me in detail how I can use rewire in Metro 6.2? I have started Metro, then Reason, but I can't get any signals into Metro. Then there's also the issue of playing Reason instruments from Metro. Any help would be appreciated.

[Jerm]

In Reason you should load up a document or a sound. In Metro you can assign a track to that sound by selecting the port in the output popup. You can then trigger notes in Reason by placing them in Metro. Or if you load a document in Reason you can have Metro play it by pressing play in Metro.

Reason should be in ReWire mode and should have launched when Metro launched or when Rewire-on was selected from the special menu. It did right?

[Paul]

I still can't get it to work. Here's what I do: I first start Metro (rewire is on), then Reason. I load a document in Reason (containing a hardware device, mixer and some samplers). In Metro, I select "Edit port..." from the output popup. I then select an NNXT sampler. When I play my keyboard, I can't hear Reason. I can see in Reason (via Reason's mixer) that a sound is triggered, but I don't hear it. Also, when I press play in Metro, I don't hear reason. I don't really understand where/how the audio signal enters Metro, maybe that's where I'm going wrong.

[Jerm]

Okay we are making progress....

If you now go to the Mixer window there should be an aux buss named rewire (or aux 1) and this is where the ReWire audio signal enters Metro. Double click on the name to edit it. Make sure the audio port in the output is set correctly.

[Paul]

I can see the rewire aux buss. Its output is my Audiowerk card. Still nothing I'm afraid. It still feels as though I'm missing a setting somewhere.

If I set the output of track 1 to 'Hardware device', I should hear the main buss (well, outputs 1 and 2) of Reason, right? Or is it necessary to select a separate track for every Reason instrument?

I can see that midi is being transfered, but no audio...

[Paul]

Jerm,

the funny thing is I just found out that it is working fine with Ableton Live... So maybe the problem is purely Reason related?

[Jerm]

If I set the output of track 1 to 'Hardware device', I should hear the main buss (well, outputs 1 and 2) of Reason, right?

I do not think so. The main output of the ReWire device is connected to the input of one of Metro's Aux buss. This aux buss is configured automatically to the default audio output device.

Or is it necessary to select a separate track for every Reason instrument?

Yes.

I can see that midi is being transfered, but no audio...

Does audio appear in the reason mixer? The audio should be sent from the reason mixer to aux 1 which should be named 'ReWire'.

What version of Reason do you have?

[Jerm]

This pre-release only works with the first ReWire device so perhaps the problem is you are using both Live and Reason and Live is first. We will be work this out by the time 6.2 is officially released.

[Paul]

I was only using Live, not Reason and Live together. My old G4 can't handle that .

Anyway... still no sound. I'll give it one more go. What if I create a new document in Reason (V. 2.5), then don't create a mixer, create a Subtractor synth and select Subtractor as an output on track 1 in Metro. Should I hear a sound? Because I don't... Again, I see that the Subtractor is receiving midi.

Is my perception right that EVERY sound created by Reason is routed to the one aux bus in Metro? So I can't choose, for example, outputs 63 and 64 of the hardware device? I know this is possible in Logic.

Creating outputs for different Reason instruments on separate tracks is only needed to send midi data?

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding the concept of rewire implementation in Metro.

[Jerm]

What if I create a new document in Reason (V. 2.5), then don't create a mixer, create a Subtractor synth and select Subtractor as an output on track 1 in Metro. Should I hear a sound? Because I don't... Again, I see that the Subtractor is receiving midi.

I will check with the Reason Demo. We had been testing with V2.0.

Is my perception right that EVERY sound created by Reason is routed to the one aux bus in Metro?

Yes and No. All sounds are routed to a single aux buss in Metro, like a Master-Reason-Out.

So I can't choose, for example, outputs 63 and 64 of the hardware device? I know this is possible in Logic.

As far as I know you can. These will also be routed to the single aux bus.

Creating outputs for different Reason instruments on separate tracks is only needed to send midi data?

Yes.

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding the concept of rewire implementation in Metro.

Well hopefully we can make this easier in the near-term future. We appreciate your help.

[Jerm]

Paul,

Metro 6.2 seems to work fine with the Reason 2.5 demo. Make sure you load up Metro first. Make sure 'rewire on' is checked in the special menu and then from the graphic editor select the output popup and select 'edit port' then select 'Rhodes'. This will route the track to the Rhodes sound in reason.

This all assumes that in Reason the demo song loads up. Pressing play should also output to the aux buss in the mixer window.

What OS are you using and what machine type is it?

[Jerm]

IMPORTANT:

You may need to switch to Reason after the default song loads so that all ReWire ports get updated by Reason.

[Paul]

I own a G4 733 mHz, OS 10.2.8, 896 MB.

I've tried what you suggested, but it still doesn't work. I can see Reason's mixer led's light up as I play on my keyboard.

Is there anyone out there who has got this working besides Jerm?

[Jerm]

I am assuming that you can get an audio file to playback using Metro. Right? I will try in 10.2.8 also soon and report back.

Do you have an aux buss named 'ReWire'?

[Paul]

Playing back an audio file goes fine. The aux bus Rewire is there. When I'm rewiring Ableton's Live, I can hear the audio signal through Metro, so rewiring does work. That's why I thought it might be a Reason problem. Maybe it's a setting in Reason we're missing?