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Postby françois » Tue May 08, 2007 7:37 am

hello,

could someone to help me to sync this midi with the metro bars ?
I've got a lot of those commercial midi's that are impossible to me to sync with bars, but I need it to edit my scores.

thank you very much by advance
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Postby w » Thu May 10, 2007 11:00 am

I really don't understand your question.

Where is that "midi" file?
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Postby françois » Thu May 10, 2007 1:30 pm

you can find the midifile on the link if my precedent message.

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Postby w » Fri May 11, 2007 10:26 am

OK, I imported that midi file into Metro and also several other audio/midi applications.

I still don't understand what you want to do or what it is you see that is wrong with that song.
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Postby françois » Fri May 11, 2007 11:00 am

if you ear with attention the song you can see that the music is not synchro with the bars and thge beat 4/4 ( and it's impossible for me to reorganise that ). if you ear the song, it's ok, but if see the score, it's not good at all.
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Postby w » Fri May 11, 2007 12:41 pm

The midi file/song is in 4/4 time.

There are a lot of triplets and the song has a syncopated beat.

When I open/import that file in Metro, Cubase SX3 or Digital Performer the score looks good. When I play the song in the score windows everything lines up.

I'm sorry I just don't see anything wrong in the score.

Could you take a screen shot of the score file you see and send it to me? If you are prepared to do that then I will give you my email address.

Try importing the midi file again, save it as a Metro file and open that file.
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Postby françois » Fri May 11, 2007 2:36 pm

I put some drum track pictures on my link.
You can see it's that impossible to obtain the bassdrum on the 1,2,3,4 beats ( it sounds good but not ), even if I move on the right.
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Postby Jerm » Sat May 12, 2007 12:50 am

Okay I finally took a look at the file. To fix this you need to align the first note by deleting time and then systematically go through each measure from left to right using the bar drag tool. The tempo is not consistent, probably because it was played live. The tempos range from about 140.6 to 141.5.
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Postby françois » Sun May 13, 2007 2:51 pm

sorry jerm, I don't understand what you mean.
the tempo track seems to be lenear ( constant ) for me, and not from 140.6 to 141.5.
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Postby Jerm » Mon May 14, 2007 12:07 am

Exactly. The problem is that the tempo is constant/linear in the sequence and should not be. The tempo actually ranges from the values I mention above. To fix this you need to drag each measure to the beat.
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Postby françois » Mon May 14, 2007 12:14 am

how can you see that the tempo ranges from 140.6 to 141.5 ?
in graphic editor, I only can see a linear tempo.
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Postby Jerm » Mon May 14, 2007 1:10 am

I started dragging the measures.
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Postby françois » Mon May 14, 2007 1:58 pm

I started also, but it's a very long job.. ! I put all the channels in the same track, select dum strikes to have a good look at the charley and BD position, but I have to change few clocks at each beat... very long don't you think it exist a way to optimize this quantization with some % allocations in a good menu ?
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Postby françois » Mon May 14, 2007 2:23 pm

don't you think it would more efficient to use the " scale time " function in the option menu ? We need to find the rate.
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Postby Jerm » Mon May 14, 2007 3:11 pm

No that will probably not work because the tempo drifts.
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