Automation curve ON the waveforms ? & Problem with Sampl

[flanchec]

Hello !

Thank you Jerm for your answer about time signature... It works correctly. I hope that you can put this new feature (copy/paste time signatures & tempi) in a future release...

BTW, I LOVE the ideas of sections, and how you can use them as "Clipboards"

Two more questions before I buy Metro :

Are you planning to put the automation curves (at least volume & pan) right ON the waveforms (like Deck, Digital Performer...). I have to mix numerous tracks ( > 48). Having a separate automation window for each one is wasting space on the screen !

I use SampleTank 2, and its output seems to be only mono (left ok , right : silent !). Did I miss something ?

Thank you in advance !

It seems Metro users have great support here !

Vince

[Jerm]

I hope that you can put this new feature (copy/paste time signatures & tempi) in a future release...

Yes it will most likely make it in soon.

Are you planning to put the automation curves (at least volume & pan) right ON the waveforms (like Deck, Digital Performer...). I have to mix numerous tracks ( > 48 ). Having a separate automation window for each one is wasting space on the screen !

Funny you should ask that. This is already implemented in 6.1.0.6 which is due out within the next couple of weeks (or sooner).

I use SampleTank 2, and its output seems to be only mono (left ok , right : silent !). Did I miss something ?

I have been trying to get them to send me a copy of Sampletank 2. I love Sampletank 1. Anyway what I think is that:

A) you should probably contact IK support for this question and
B) you are probably using the AU version and not the VST version.

If B is true then what will probably work is to put the AU on an aux buss and not on a track. Otherwise you may want to simply use the VST version.

[Scoot]

B) you are probably using the AU version and not the VST version.

If B is true then what will probably work is to put the AU on an aux buss and not on a track. Otherwise you may want to simply use the VST version.

I do believe it's B and putting it on the AUX will work.
Is this mono occurance a problem with Audio Units?


scoot

[Jerm]

Is this mono occurance a problem with Audio Units?

Well, this is a common mistake that unknowing AudioUnit developers run into. It has to do with busses. Some plug-ins are publishing 2 busses and 2 streams which appears as 4 outputs. When installed on a track, Metro configures the plug-in to output mono on the first two busses. Of course, since the plug-in really only has one buss and two streams when the second stream is rendered it return silence, thus the right audio channel is silent.

Now that I think about it, this could be a problem with Metro that needs to be fixed because a plug-in like Sampletank has 8 outputs that may be configured as 4 busses of stereo outs. I suppose Metro should be outputting stereo to buss 0 and not mono to buss 0 and buss 1.

Of course if Sampletank were publishing 8 streams on a single buss this would also solve the problem.

You could find out if this is a Metro problem by installing Sampletank 2 on a track. Then output MIDI channel 1 to outputs 1 & 2 and output MIDI channel 2 to outputs 3 & 4. Now if data sent to MIDI channel 2 outputs to the right audio then this a Metro problem. If there is only output on the left channel and silence on the right then this a Sampletank 2 problem.

This is most commonly happening when AU developers are using wrappers to create their plug-ins like the VST SDK produced by Emagic. You can find out more info on wrappers here.

[Jerm]

Okay. I have done some testing with Sampletank II in demo mode and here are the results.

The VST plug does not load at all. In fact Metro does not recognize it as a VST plug-in because it is missing the required info.plist file necessary for it to be an executable plug-in. I have notified IK Multimedia and I am waiting to see what they say. It would be a simple matter for even a user to fix this problem.

The AU plug-in is specifying a buss count of 2, this is confusing Metro and results in Sampletank II being mono as a track insert and as a stereo output from an aux buss (instead of an 8 output device). The good news here is that I have a workaround that I am prepared to release in 6.1.0.6 that will allow this powerful plug-in to be used to its full potential.

Again I am waiting to hear back from IK Multimedia on whether or not they will have a fix for either of these two minor problems.

[Jerm]

I found a workaround in Metro 6.1.0.5. Simply save the file with sampletank and then reload it. It should now play in stereo as a track insert.

[Scoot]

But have you found the colour display knob on the right?

[Jerm]

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